Hi everyone, Just wanted to let everyone about this particular breeder and to stay away! My family and I currently have a golden and we would like to get a Berner. I am happy to say that I have dodged this place and have found a reputable breeder and am awaiting one of their pups. Paul, the owner, or should I say "scientist" is nothing but a crook! We originally submitted our REFUNDABLE $100 deposit for a litter (to be one of the first picks!) Well, we decided to change our minds, as we visited other breeders and REALIZED, the way he had his dogs living is no way any animal should be raised. His puppies were in a kennel outside in the rain and his older dogs were kenneled in his dirty backyard. Now there is nothing wrong with having kennels...but after visiting other breeders whose kennels were well maintained, dogs beautifully kept, it was like night and day! But back to Paul, after speaking with him numerous times to refund our deposit, there has been no action taken on his part and it's my understanding we are not the first to be treated like this also. I had also bumped into a woman at a local petsmart and since I seen she had a Berner, got to talking....turns out she also got her girl from this breeder and at just 6 months needed a total hip replacement and Paul was nowhere!!! So glad I obtained that info before it was too late! Just want to remind everyone, stick to the clubs, visit breeders and by all means, stay away from this jerk!